Healthy masculine man pursues, it is how God made them. Pressure is a fuel for purpose with men. Its the bees who goes to the flowers, the sperms who swims to the egg. Its the egg who chooses healthy sperm & rejects unhealthy sperm. A beautiful polarity of Masculine & Feminine. Masculine gives, feminine receives sameway goes in consummate. Divine masculine men Protects, Leads & Provides for the women no excuses. Feminine nurtures, submits, multiply. Its their different role & Divine calling.

Too much pressure on Christian guys?
Is there too much pressure put on men in Christian dating? Typically, theyâre expected to approach women, pay for the date, pursue and initiate. Guys of SALT, do you feel a lot of pressure? Does anything need to change?
Im old fashioned, i dont expect a guy to pay on a first date. Id offer to split it. Unless he insisted. Im an old romantic. But you dont see it these days. Guys holding doors, pulling out your chair ect....
So what's the Christian solution to capitalism? Answers on a postcard
That isn't pressure
it does get a bit depressing sending intro after intro getting no response would be nice to hear back from someone hopefully i get to delete this app in 2026
@Luke ,mate, I think there are quite a few blokes (myself included) in that boat. I agree with your sentiment; it does become rather dispiriting to have intro after intro after intro disappear out intonthe ether, never to be seennor heard from again. Especially as we only get one intro every few days. Makes one extra cautious in their use.
Yeah it's due 2 feminism that screwed everything. In Spain u can not be a man, they do not let you, we have less rights. If they like u it's a complkment otherwise it's "harassment". Plus it's full of spoiled impure girls
Diamonds are made under pressure đ
Related to the taking a women out on a date. Truth is she has probably gine out a couple of times before and then things went side ways. If you are intentional about someone then do something different. It doesnt have to be a restaurant. Can be a picnic. A walk and a coffee. Women just want to see that you actually thought about this and planned it and put effort in it. Women although complicated are simple. We just want to feel valued and special . Doesnt have to be fancy.
Too much pressure? Its called being a MAN. But "most" men nowadays doesnt want to act like a masculine man anymore as they want to be pursued, 50/50 on dates, dont want to lead and initiate. They basically wants to be the price. Not biblical anymore đ¤ˇââď¸ Its sad.
@Bree I really agree with you, but before, one manâs salary was enough to support a family, a house, etc. Economically, things are different these days, and thereâs more pressure on men. That said, I also see that many guys donât try hard enough to work.. toward it.
In addition to what Mantas has mentioned about the economic realities, 2 more points to consider: - Things like the âme tooâ movement and âtoxic masculinityâ have made approaching women potentially hostile. Men have to look for some hint of interest, to reduce the risk of an invitation not being well received. In a small church, it could make things difficult. - There arenât the male role models/father figures there used to be, to teach/disciple men, and show women what a good man is.
@Rob One issue with men approaching women is that it feels like itâs been split into the extremes. Either men donât approach out of fear, as you mention, or they bombard the woman and ignore her ânoâ, making her uncomfortable. Most people, men or women, arenât going to mind being approached once, respectfully: in fact theyâll be flattered. Whatâs unpleasant is a refusal to respect a ânoâ.
@Bree at one point women couldn't leave the house, get a job or vote (as is still the case in some countries). Is it not a dangerous slope for women to reduce equality and risk ending up with patriarchy again?
Nah this isn't pressure, this is the right way to go about it. It shows emphasis on biblical values and leading as God created man to do.
I donât feel like there is pressure. Itâs more a patience and discernment process in my opinion, to find a person with similar vision. Then unselfish love will handle the rest. It saddens me that some people give up their search prematurely.
He who finds a wife finds a good thing, And obtains favor from the Lord. Proverbs 18:22
My view is that pursuit, for want of a better word, is far more fraught than it once was. The sad fact is that a number of high profile men have behaved in such an appalling way so as to cast a negative perception on male-female pursuit. Personally, unless I have a pretty firm indication that a lady I'm interested in reciprocates that interest, I will typically remain aloof. As a divorced dad, the risk of my pursuit being misinterpreted and the ensuing hoo haa is simply too great.
There are plenty of expectations for men and a lot of things you have to take into consideration. But I personally feel no pressure. If I like a woman to some extent I will let her know. And her reaction is not in my control so also reason to worry about it. Ive had plenty of rejections so at some point you stop caring when they do
So no reason to worry*
Itâs true that for men in the church there are a lot of expectations and pressure, and at the same time not enough guidance from men who are already established in marriage. Stay strong brothers !
One of the main reasons Iâm on this app is because I would really struggle to âapproachâ women in person, say at church. I definitely would not be able to initiate anything in person, unless I got to know someone really well first beforehand. I think it would be great if I could meet a woman in person, or even on here, who reaches out to me first, that would show me that they are very proactive, sociable and assertive, which I think is very valuable :)
@Daniel it is very hard to get a response from a woman, even if you write first.
Itâs not necessarily pressure, and paying for a date is reasonable (though it shouldnât have to be expensive), but what there seems to be is a lack of grace and giving guys a chance. In church settings, guys have a lot to lose if rejected - in some cases getting badmouthed/gossiped about, even if everything is above board. Ideally, a relationship grows out of friendship and you ask someone out on a date because youâve got some idea of who they are and an incline of mutual attraction.
Online has itâs proâs and conâs, a filled-out profile is a helpful starting point (you canât really gauge someoneâs faith until youâve got to know them) and an idea of interests/hobbies is a good conversation starter. Even sending meaningful introâs, the response rate is extremely low. Distance, age etc can be logical deal-breakers, and there are valid arguments for not responding, but how much of it is Christian women judging men based on an impossibly long list of criteria?
Much of what needs to change is teaching and discipleship. Over the years Iâve heard the Church teach for women not to âsettleâ, and men to not âoverlookâ potential options. There is truth in both those points, but also the reality we all imperfect people, made in the image of God, and need to show one-another grace. There has to be realistic expectations, and teaching/discipleship for both men and women to 1) live out our faith 2) become the best version of ourselves for our future spouse.
Wise words brother! I also struggle to get women to respond!
@Rob That's true!
If they wanted to, they would. If they don't, somene else will đ¤ˇââď¸
@Jessica đŻ
No, I don't feel pressure. I'm happy to pay but equally I don't believe in the notion that it HAS to be the man to initiate and pursue. After all, Ruth initiated/pursed Boaz. Plus, the word "pursue" has connotations of one party playing hard-to-get or "ooo chase me" or guys "playing it cool". This is immature. We're all grown adults, we shouldn't be playing games.
@Lachlan Agree completely đđž
@Lachlan Well said!
All I can say is this, what my grandparents and before that time had, and what we have now regarding finding someone and getting married are vastly different. The expectations of traditions are still expected but overwhelming only for males (especially in Western Countries)
I feel the preasure is for everyone. It's a tough but wonderful game. God is good. We experience Him in this too as He is the relation-oriented God :D