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David
Tue Jan 14 2025

Once saved always saved?

Can a Christian lose salvation? Such a big question with lots of differing views, what's yours? Remeber to treat everyone with respect 🙂

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Melissa

Yes because it's a Choice. God doesn't force you to love Him. If you chose to walk away from the Holy Spirit, you are crucifying Jesus again. I don't see how anyone can walk away after tasting God's goodness. But if such a person did, you are forfeiting eternal life that Jesus died for. It is a choice. I repent because of his Love for me, not the other way around.

Tue Jan 28 2025
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Melissa's avatar
Melissa

@Melissa This is the only way you can lose salvation. Is if you chose not to follow Jesus anymore. Other than that, nothing can separate you from the love of God. Once saved , always saved unless you chose differently

Tue Jan 28 2025
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Taro

Baptism doesn't save you, Christ saves. I promise you, if you could've lost your salvation, you would've done everything in your might to do it. This is where Christ comes in. Another answer I see a lot under my reformed brothers and sisters is, "...Then you were not saved in the first place". Now I want to know, WHO are you to place this judgment. Your works cannot save you, neither can it lose your salvation, this is Amazing Grace.

Tue Jan 28 2025
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Kaitlyn

The phrase “losing your salvation” always makes me think the mentality is that I could do something so terrible I would “lose my salvation.” And I don’t think that’s true. Jesus died for our sins and we’re told that “nothing can separate us from the love of God.” But, I do believe that we can choose to walk away from God and renounce Him. So is that really “losing” salvation? He will always choose us, it’s a matter of if we will always choose to accept his forgiveness and salvation.

Tue Jan 28 2025
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Scott's avatar
Scott

I have a sister who was saved and baptized but is now denying Christ and following agnosticism whatever that is. I do believe that she is going through a rough time and is saved because of stuff I've read and heard. I want to believe that Jesus loves her and understands and knows exactly what He's doing. I've lost Faith a few times too. It's pretty Crazy. I pray for everybody, in Jesus' Name!

Mon Jan 27 2025
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Dave's avatar
Dave

This is the most scariest thing to ever hear Jesus say 😟 Matthew 7:21-23 New King James Version 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Mon Jan 27 2025
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Lydia's avatar
Lydia

That applies to people who NEVER KNEW Jesus. It means if you EVER knew Jesus he would welcome you with open arms

Mon Jan 27 2025
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Taro's avatar
Taro

Not true. This is like answering a rhetorical question. This is to show, that people thinking their works in the name of Christ [yet ultimately selfish], can 'buy' salvation.

Tue Jan 28 2025
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Sally

Mathew 7:21 Also John 14:15-31 Live Alice of repentance !!

Sun Jan 26 2025
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Evelyn's avatar
Evelyn

This is an interesting question. While we may not lose our salvation as born again Christians … the Bible talks about erring from the faith … essentially backsliding, hardening our hearts to becoming more like the world and less like Jesus … hope that helps and thanks for posting David.

Sun Jan 26 2025
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Bruno

Salvation it’s not granted.. what we received was the opportunity to repent and change our minds our behaviour.. Until the end we need to work hard to live our lives by the commandments of God, following the example of Jesus who never sin. Cause Sin is the transgression of the law as John wrote. 4. Everyone who habitually sins also lives in rebellion against the Law, because sin is the transgression of the Law. (1 John, 3)

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Kelly's avatar
Kelly

@Bruno Indeed. However the works we do are a show *of* our salvation, not working *for* our salvation. Jesus did everything needed on the cross, when He said It is finished. This also doesn't mean we're now perfect, we still do sometimes sin. We live under His grace, but shouldn't flaunt it (Romans 6:1-2; 1 John 2:1)

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Bruno

@Kelly In fact, our works do not give us salvation... so all that is left for us is the works of God... which is to fulfill his commandments. “ For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” 1 John 5:3

Tue Jan 28 2025
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Matthias's avatar
Matthias

Yes. I was raised Christian and accepted salvation at a young age, but when I turned 18 I actually converted to Sikhism. After 5 years, God spoke to my heart, not audibly, but the message was clear, “I see you want to follow me, but Jesus is the only way.” So I came back to Christ and haven’t looked back. I definitely was saved before I abandoned Christ for Sikhism. I didn’t backslide, I legitimately thought Sikhism was better. God said, nope and I came back to Christ. He gave me another chance.

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Justin's avatar
Justin

Yes, once saved always saved. Unless you/they actively give up their salvation. But then the question really is: Were they saved to begin with. Parable of the sower, for example.

Fri Jan 24 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

No, you cannot lose your salvation. Working to keep it is the same as working to earn it. We need to stop relying on ourselves to earn our spot in Heaven. I feel like this is a way to plant seeds of doubt in Christians' minds.

Fri Jan 24 2025
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Matthias's avatar
Matthias

@Alethia I believe we work synergistically with God for our salvation not because of anything meritorious on our part, but because God decided to make a way for us to learn obedience to Him rather than being forced to because some of us were programmed to believe.

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

@Matthias we are supposed to obey Christ but it is not to earn salvation. I do believe that if believers act in disobedience then they would be miserable. If not it brings up the question of whether they're saved to begin with. Saul in the OT is an example of someone who acted in disobedience to God at the end of his life and that was why God brought him home

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Matthias's avatar
Matthias

@Alethia I fully agree that we don’t earn salvation, but God in His wisdom decided to delegate work to us. Just because we accept Christ and do the work He has for us is nothing to boast about. Adam had work to do in the perfection of the garden before the fall. We accept God’s gift of salvation and are given good work to do, but we don’t earn salvation by it, but it is part of the salvation process often referred to sanctification in Protestant theology.

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

Matthew 24:13 “but the one who stands firm in the end will be saved”

Thu Jan 23 2025
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Sundeeya

Perseverance of saints

Thu Jan 23 2025
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Simon's avatar
Simon

Simple answer, yes but no. Confusing right? That's why we need to read the word of god. It's our own individual responsibility to remove guess work. Jesus was with the father from the beginning. He came to uphold the law (10 commandments) in the new testament. But also to finish and complete our agreement with god. So yes we are saved by grace/faith/acknowledgement with the prescious blood of Christ. We condemn ourselves but Christ came to convict us to show us the way!

Thu Jan 23 2025
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Ask's avatar
Ask

Quite terrifying reading most of these comments. I highly recommend discipleship classes, systematic theology and verse by verse commentary with context. Old Testament and New Testament salvation is not the same, etc. Grabbing random verses from different areas throughout the Holy Bible without the entirety of that message and all is taking away from the context of it and actual meaning. No one doesn't fall short, sin, or end up making mistakes after being born again here on earth.

Thu Jan 23 2025
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Milkah

Exodus 32:33 God Hisself says if some sins He will blot out their name from the book of life....The Moses prays and pleads for the people because they had made a golden calf against the laws of God. Once saved is not always saved, if you fall short... you need to repent your sins... I think inside pride and public image makes people shy away from rededicating their lives to the Lord...C'mon who cares?Go for that altar call repent and change your ways.

Wed Jan 22 2025
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Matthias's avatar
Matthias

@Milkah Amen. However, I will clarify that we don’t live in doubt of our salvation. Neither do we “lose” it when we sin like misplacing our keys or wallet. I feel like too much difference is placed on salvation vs sanctification. Salvation is both instantaneous and we can have confidence in Christ while also being a lifelong process. Sanctification isn’t separate from salvation, but rather a part of it.

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

True Salvation can't be lost.

Wed Jan 22 2025
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Yvette's avatar
Yvette

It so sad how Christians are taught wrong! Ask the holy spirited he will clarify God want us to serve him in spirit and in truth! (Not just anyhow) living live how ever we want with no change!

Wed Jan 22 2025
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Evelyn's avatar
Evelyn

@Yvette So true Yvette. Thanks for posting. Appreciate hour insights. The Lord bless you.

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Afon's avatar
Afon

Yes you can lose if you start sinning and not repent,just like how Lucifer was in heaven and God kicked him out when he sinned

Wed Jan 22 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

Once saved always saved— yes! In the sense that, when a personally TRULY becomes saved they receive Christ and are transformed and they never depart from the faith.

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

If they depart or never change into Christ's likeness, they were never saved to begin with.

Tue Jan 21 2025
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James's avatar
James

I'm growing into the persuasion that we can "lose" our salvation, in the sense that we have the freedom to walk away from Christ after we have truly encountered him. I believe in the perseverance of Christ's invincible heart for us, but we would be mere puppets and automatons if we , once we have entered into a relationship, no longer had the capacity to leave it. I'm still growing into this line of reasoning, but God made us with a big, delicious free will, that can (foolishly) reject him.

Tue Jan 21 2025
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James's avatar
James

Why people make the false equivalency of "choosing" Jesus (and by extension leaving Jesus) to be earning our salvation, just seems ridiculous to me. If we're drowning in the Pacific Ocean and we choose to grab the life raft, are we meritorious in this act? Or course we aren't.

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Benjamin's avatar
Benjamin

@James well said James. Our salvation is not about us but Gods choosing. If my earthly son turned his back on me and never spoke to me does he cease to be my son?? This Arminian view of salvation negates this parable and dozens of scriptures and dilutes the completeness of Christs accomplishment.

Wed Jan 22 2025
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Yvette's avatar
Yvette

@James there is nothing that we can do to earn salvation ! God weighs the heart meaning, all we can do is try to follow his word until we die or he comes for us. He looks at effort!!

Wed Jan 22 2025
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Yvette's avatar
Yvette

@Benjamin it does not change the love you have for him but it will change the love he has for you because be will grow apart from you to the point he doesn’t know you!

Wed Jan 22 2025
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Matt's avatar
Matt

@Yvette effort really has nothing to do with it. Paul made this abundantly clear in Galatians. It is all about what he did on the cross, salvation is a free gift given to us who believe.

Thu Jan 23 2025
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Yvette's avatar
Yvette

@Matt yes Matt it efforts to believe ! Jesus died for you and me but if we truly believe then we make some kind of effort , when you believe it produces faith and then you do, doing something is putting effort, no?

Thu Jan 23 2025
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Matthias's avatar
Matthias

@James Satan can’t snatch us out of the Father’s hand, but we can walk away. I did this myself once. God pursued me over 5 years before I came back, but He never forced me.

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Tyson's avatar
Tyson

Yes, a Christian can lose salvation. If you say otherwise, you’re essentially saying that we don’t have free will. A human can chose to walk away from God, but that’s the way for the salvation to be “lost”. No one in the world before the Protestant Reformation would’ve said that you can’t lose your salvation lol.

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Benjamin's avatar
Benjamin

@Tyson unfortunately your conclusions are philosophical and aren’t biblical. Did you go back in the tardis and discover ‘no-one in the world thought that’😂

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Charles's avatar
Charles

@Benjamin the teaching that one can lose his salvation is indeed Biblical. As Paul says to the Judaizing Christians: You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. - Galatians 5:4 How does a Christian fall away from grace if he never had it in the first place? It seems quite evident from scripture that salvation can be lost.

Fri Jan 24 2025
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Tyson's avatar
Tyson

@Benjamin if you say that you can’t lose your salvation you are saying that you don’t have free will. You can reject a gift. And you saying my views aren’t ‘biblical’ is strictly your opinion. Again, no church would’ve ever taught you cannot lose your salvation. I don’t need a Time Machine, we literally have writings about this. The views of ‘once saved always saved’ wasn’t held by any church until the 16th century.

Mon Jan 27 2025
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Benjamin's avatar
Benjamin

It’s so sad that many Christians live on the the tightrope of not understanding the completion of Christs achievement and opt for Jehovah witness styled salvation by works because of misunderstanding scripture. There will be some that were never believers in the first place such as Judas but have the appearance of being a Christian. But this is quite different from salvation by works or in fear of committing the unpardonable sin!

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Matthias's avatar
Matthias

@Benjamin @Benjamin If you’re going to bring JW in here then let me say after having studied the Bible and theology for years, my position is very similar to Eastern Orthodox. While my theology remains firmly within non-reformed Protestant evangelicalism this is one of those areas they get right. My only disagreement is that they believe one can’t know that they are saved. I believe we can have confidence in our salvation and thank God for it every day.

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Benjamin's avatar
Benjamin

Galations 5:1 is talking about how we can stop living in the good of Gods grace. Falling away doesn’t mean loosing our salvation. It’s not possible to be ‘unborn again’. Thank heavens!

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Lee's avatar
Lee

@Benjamin can you explain James 2:14-26 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. I assumed this meant you can be saved, however if you do not change your life/works to become a better person. You haven’t fully committed to being saved. These are assumptions I’m no expert, I would like to hear your view.

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Matt's avatar
Matt

@Lee being saved isn't about commitment and dedication, it's through faith alone by the grace of Christ's spilled blood on the cross

Wed Jan 22 2025
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Justin's avatar
Justin

Works are the evidence of your proclamation of faith. Because of the Holy Spirit on your life you "do" works, not out of compulsion, but because of your appreciation of Jesus's sacrifice, and the Holy Spirit working on your life. And the renewal of your mind.

Fri Jan 24 2025
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Matt's avatar
Matt

If we are capable of losing our salvation, what is the point of grace? Is the blood of Jesus limited? Is it conditional? If we were capable of saving ourselves and/or keeping ourselves saved, why did Jesus die in the first place?

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Matt's avatar
Matt

John 10:28 "I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will smatch them out of my hand." Romans 11:29 "For the gifts and callings of God are irrevocable." Romans 8:38-39 "For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Gourab

@Matt Grace and all the above Bible verses you mentioned apply only if we take up our cross and follow Jesus on a daily basis. No amount of prayer done today is enough for tomorrow. That’s why we pray “Give us this day our daily bread 🍞” and not “give us tomorrow’s bread”. Hence, in the Bible it has been continuously said to keep watch everyday (Mathews 25:13, Mathews 24: 42, Rev 3:16) Therefore, we must pray and ask for forgiveness for our sins everyday.

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Matt's avatar
Matt

@Gourab it's good to pray every day however I do not believe your salvation hangs on it.

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Yvette's avatar
Yvette

@Matt @ freely@

Wed Jan 22 2025
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Matthias's avatar
Matthias

@Gourab I agree, but it’s not an “Oops! I forgot to pray today. Thank God I didn’t die in a car accident because I didn’t lock in my salvation today.”

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Yvette's avatar
Yvette

@Matt Gace means he wanted to free my no one told him to choose he chose because he has the power to do it!

Wed Jan 22 2025
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Jackson's avatar
Jackson

The Bible warns Christians that they can "fall from grace" (Gal. 5:1-5), be "cut off" from salvation (Rom. 11:18-22), have their names removed from the Lamb's Book of Life (Rev. 22:19), by committing certain sins and not repenting of them (cf. Eph. 5: 3-5; 1Cor. 6:9; Gal. 5:19, Rev. 21:6-8).

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Jackson's avatar
Jackson

It can't be anymore clear than that

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Jackson's avatar
Jackson

It's really very simple,. The Bible warns Christians that they can "fall from grace" (Gal. 5:1-5), be "cut off" from salvation (Rom. 11:18-22), have their names removed from the Lamb's Book of Life (Rev. 22:19), by committing certain sins and not repenting of them (cf. Eph. 5: 3-5; 1Cor. 6:9; Gal. 5:19, Rev. 21:6-8).

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Axel's avatar
Axel

It s better If You don't stop believing

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Jay's avatar
Jay

Idk but I will say it his u can't build anything into of junk or a weak foundation

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

yes this is correct

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Rachel's avatar
Rachel

I think that such a huge topic like this needs detailed study of the whole of God's word. Thankfully, there are people who have done alot of the hard work for us. I can recommend the book Bible Doctrine by Wayne Grudem, which is an abridged version of his Systematic Theology. It's more readable than you think, and is useful for us in our study of the Bible. Without comprehensive study, we could believe whichever argument suits us, or even think God's word can is contradictory (which it isn't)

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Rachel's avatar
Rachel

@Rachel sorry for the typo at the end - can be contradictory (which it isn't)

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Evelyn's avatar
Evelyn

@Rachel Hello Rachel, agree with your helpful comments. God bless you.

Sat Jan 25 2025
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Sylvanus

Was Judas ever saved? Did Judas ever lose his salvation? Can a Christian renounce Christ and become a Satanist?

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Angel's avatar
Angel

I can write all day on this long debated topic but ill just say this, that is not scripture, and there are plenty of scriptures that proves thus wordly saying false. I can only say study to show thyself approved unto God, there has been plenty manipulation of the word of God, because people desire to make Gods word appease their sin. He who endures to the end the same shall be saved matthew 24:13.

Sun Jan 19 2025
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Yvette's avatar
Yvette

I Never Knew You 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ So let’s not take salvation for granted

Sun Jan 19 2025
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Jackson's avatar
Jackson

@Yvette you're absolutely right. If Jesus says He doesn't know who you are it means you are not saved. Yes you can lose your salvation. Just like the virgins with the lampstands story. Maintaining the oil, the anointing is vital. No one can give anyone else from their oil, you have to earn yours and keep maintaining it. Otherwise you're not going to make it. He will deny you, because you've denied Him, you won't enter the kingdom of heaven.

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Yvette's avatar
Yvette

Im so glad that we can as Christians have these discussions because we need to know that we are saved by his grace because he loves us even when we disobey he waits for us to fall in alignment but if we don’t the we don’t! his love doesn’t change but this is what does mathew7: 21-23 says:

Sun Jan 19 2025
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Rory's avatar
Rory

Whatever God started he will bring to completion... 1 peter I'm someone who did slide for a while. God was determined to keep that work going!

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

You can not lose your salvation. Jesus has promised to keep us and He never fails.

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Yvette's avatar
Yvette

@Gustavo he’s fidelity is not a question he never fails he’s promised to keep us ,but we have apart to do too ! Is stay under the shelter of the most high if we leave , he doesn’t force us to, he waits patiently for us to come back!

Sun Jan 19 2025
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Tonya's avatar
Tonya

If one is saved by Yeshua, Jesus Christ, the Son of Almighty God ...then He has redeemed that person by His blood and forgiven all their sins. He is faithful to complete that which He has started in us, and our omnipotent, omnipresent God is always with us to lead and hold us is His hands. He knows our beginning and end. Why would He predestine us then lose us? I think those that "lose their salvation/faith" deliberately reject God, but He knew they would, yet His grace is sufficient.

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Harry's avatar
Harry

In the epistles of Saint Paul: he writes right like this: I was saved, I'm being saved and hope to be saved at the last judgment

Fri Jan 17 2025
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Jacki's avatar
Jacki

I think if we truly repent, we’re saved, if we then backslide, we’re saved, if we turn away, we’re saved, God is waiting for us to turn around, and will wait as long as it takes. I heard a story recently about a man who became a Christian as a young man but later turned his back, years later, and dying of cancer, he felt God’s presence and on his deathbed, came back to Christ. So there’s hope for those brothers and sisters who’ve fallen away. But did they truly give their lives to Jesus?

Fri Jan 17 2025
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Evelyn's avatar
Evelyn

@Jacki Hello Jacki, Thank you for your thoughtful post. I agree we can backslide and if one is genuinely a born again Christian we always have God’s gift of salvation. Important we all not take His precious gift of salvation for granted.

Fri Jan 17 2025
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Jackson's avatar
Jackson

God wants everyone to be saved, and even in your deathbed He will give you a last chance to repent and accept Him into your heart so that He can welcome you home. It's still your choice at the end of it all. The point is we don't know when we're going to go and even if we'll have that last chance to be saved. Who you serve when you die is where you're going. There's not but's at that point. We are to stay alert and vigilant for Christ's coming. He will come like a thief in the night.

Mon Jan 20 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

Like with any relationship it needs to be maintained. God invites us to be in a covenant with Him and we have a choice whether we accept or decline the invite. If we accept we are to maintain the relational covenant with Him. Marriage is an example of this, hardened hearts lead to divorce as hardened hearts can lead us away from God. You can lose salvation by not maintaining your relationship with Jesus.

Fri Jan 17 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

Also wanted to add that you can return to a relationship too. Salvation is always available but we can turn away from it too, therefore losing it. God never takes it away from us, we take it away from ourselves by not choosing to keep God first.

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Charlie's avatar
Charlie

@Oasis Good morning dear Oasis, I agree more with this... thank you for sharing 🙏🏼

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

@Charlie thanks Charlie :) Glad it was helpful ☺️

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Raivo's avatar
Raivo

I always liked the Davids Pawson sermon on this. He also wrote a book. Can take a look.

Thu Jan 16 2025
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Hil's avatar
Hil

Ditto! 😊 I was also thinking about Pawson's sermon when I saw this question.

Fri Jan 17 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

I don't believe you can lose your salvation, but you can willfully forfeit/turn away from it. There are many Scriptures in the NT that describe this happening. 1 Timothy 4:1, Luke 12:42-48, 2 Peter 2:20-22, Hebrew 3:12, Romans 11:22

Wed Jan 15 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

@Troy And based on those Scriptures, once saved always saved is false

Thu Jan 16 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

Exactly 💯

Thu Jan 16 2025
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Miairis

I agree once saved always saved is false. NIV- Revelations 3:16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. God is full of mercy and wants all of us to repent but like any relationship it requires work and commitment to live life the right way God tells us how to live through his word .

Sun Jan 19 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

Once saved always saved. “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”” ~ John‬ ‭10‬:‭27‬-‭30‬

Wed Jan 15 2025
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Ajit

@Koren-Marie yes but in John 12: 47 to 50 he complemented it with the following: 47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. 49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Ajit

50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Ajit's avatar
Ajit

So, we can forfeit salvation if we do not follow his teachings. However, if we truly repent and follow his teachings, our Lord will forgive us!

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

@Ajit but He is talking about “hearers of the word but not doers” (like the Pharisees) so then I think it’s a question of they’re not really saved. I don’t believe you can have the Holy Spirit and receive salvation and comfortably live a life in sin with no conviction without turning back to the Father 🙏🏽❤️ I think once you’re saved you are His ❤️

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

@Ajit there’s too many verses to support it, and I think everything else is guidance on how to live in His love - and if you truly love Jesus you will do it by default. But at the end of the day, who knows! I treasure my salvation and I pray I never lost it, but i simultaneously live in the peace and comfort that I am His forever and eternity

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

@Koren-Marie lose*

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Ajit's avatar
Ajit

@Koren-Marie he is talking to the Pharisees, not about them only. He clearly says, "Anyone." We all stray, but if we truly repent, we are forgiven. That is why he was sent to redeem and forgive us. Like he said to the apostle, Peter. Forgive when asked as the heavenly Father forgives (paraphrasing here Mathew 18:21-35). That is how he does it, too. You have to repent. Even the parable of the prodical son shows that...

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Ajit

There are verses that talk about his flock following his word and that we will be able to see or distinguish his followers by their actions, not words (paraphrasing here, too). Mathew 16:24-28 is the best of these I can think of, with verse 27 being the standout.

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

@Ajit I agree with everything you are both saying, but that doesn’t mean you can lose your salvation - it means those who are doers and those who follow Him are saved and always will be. If you are saved you are - by default - going to repent when you mess up, because after that salvation and receiving the Holy Spirit you just can’t live in sin

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Ajit

@Koren-Marie, I hopefully get your perspective. I believe you are saying that as long as you choose to walk as per the Lord's commands, though you will fall sometimes (not willfully) and repent wholeheartedly, you will be saved. Not including the list of caveats where one willfully chooses to sin and believes, I will just ask forgiveness, and I will be saved. If this is what you mean, then we are on the same page!✝️

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Angel

The key to see hear is that his people (his sheep) they Follow HIM, which means they remain in his will, his word ,and his way, thats what makes them his and keeps them in his hands. The devil cannot just snatch us out, but we can jump out and choose to submit to another law

Sun Jan 19 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

@Angel @Ajit I agree with everything you are both saying, but that doesn’t mean you can lose your salvation - it means those who are doers and those who follow Him are saved and always will be. If you are saved you are - by default - going to repent when you mess up, because after that salvation and receiving the Holy Spirit you just can’t live in sin

Tue Jan 21 2025
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Louise

1/2 This is just my opinion, but NO. Jesus paid the ultimate price so that we could be saved. But God gave us free will so that we may choose to follow Christ and be saved. But if we don't turn away from sin and the ways of the world, then we are held captive by the sins we keep running back to. We have to repent and Jesus will save us. Jesus saves me on a daily basis because don't we all fall short?

Wed Jan 15 2025
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Louise's avatar
Louise

2/2 If you go to a dangerous area & you get kidnapped & tortured. You cry out Jesus, me and He does. You follow Jesus for a while, but the road gets hard and it's not exciting... so you end up going back to that dangerous area where the kidnappers are and they torture you again. You cry out again Jesus, save me please, I'm sorry I left you. Can you imagine if Jesus said - I already saved you once. Once saved always saved, right? Thank goodness Jesus never says that and He is excited to save us

Wed Jan 15 2025
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Byran's avatar
Byran

@Louise I agree

Wed Jan 15 2025
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Lorri's avatar
Lorri

@Louise I agree I like your example

Thu Jan 16 2025
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Lydia's avatar
Lydia

@Louise you are confusing being saved from a difficult circumstance and eternal salvation. Yes, God is always saving us from difficult situations but when it comes to eternal salvation, as the name hints, it is eternal. Everlasting. What kind of everlasting salvation doesn't last forever?

Thu Jan 16 2025
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Louise

@Lydia Salvation is a free gift to save us from the fires of Hell. You can still forfeit the Kingdon of Heaven, by indulging in sin. Galatians 5:21 says "envy, drunkeness, lust and other sins like these. Let me tell you AGAIN, that anyone living that sort of life WILL NOT inherit the Kingdon of God" The price we pay for sin is our salvation. We have to repent.

Thu Jan 16 2025
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Charlie's avatar
Charlie

Thank you Louise for your original comments, and this is another great response 🙏🏼 Love that Jesus NEVER gives up on us... even when we still make rhe same stupid mistakes 🙏🏼❤🙌🏼

Sat Jan 18 2025
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Angel's avatar
Angel

@Louise for the wages of sin is death romans 6:23

Sun Jan 19 2025
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Taylor's avatar
Taylor

Can I provide an answer to different question? Because i do think that the key to finding a good answer is accepting that there are greater questions that solves smaller ones. Is God good? if we truly believe that God is good, that He hears us when we cry out, if we believe He hasn’t closed the gates of heaven to us with impossible or confusing rules. then we have a good reason to trust in Him regardless of the answers to smaller questions. the goodness of God is indeed a greater question.

Wed Jan 15 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

@Taylor yes.

Wed Jan 15 2025
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Leona's avatar
Leona

Jesus said “go and sin no more”

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Quinn's avatar
Quinn

Lets look at the scripture! Matthew 7:21-23 is a pretty clear answer. P.S. the more accurate translation of Jesus words, "I never knew you", from the original Koine Greek would be "for not even one day have I claimed you as my own". So all this professing our faith, the works, the service, the prayer, etc is not the way to be claimed by Jesus. Remember: there is a way that seems right to men, and in the end leads to death. The path is narrow my friends, single file behind Christ our Lord!

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Byran's avatar
Byran

I believe it is possible to fall away from the Lord. While we are not saved by our own works, we are called to live a holy and sanctified life—there is no way around it. Scripture supports this truth, though many choose not to see it, often due to their own fleshly desires or the influence of false teachings. The path to life is narrow.

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

I have learned about His faithfulness and unfailing Love largely through the lack of my own. But for the Grace of God go any of us… We cannot limit the ability of Jesus to save through our understanding of it. God pursues us, and sent Jesus with a heart of mercy, in full knowledge that we cannot remain faithful, and need Him in advocate for us.. so that no one can boast by their own works. This is our God. I do not believe the God I know Him to be turns the worst of sinners (like me) away.

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Anonymous's avatar
Anonymous

*to advocate

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Rob's avatar
Rob

We can make a case either way, but the reality is we do not know for sure. God looks at the heart and it is His will that none should perish - there are so many difficult situations and circumstances, where we can’t apply a blanket theory as to who is saved and who is not. If we truly believe that God loves people, then I have to believe that He looks upon people with compassion (people who have lost faith usually have done so due to pain), giving them an opportunity to accept Him.

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Just Me Hayley's avatar
Just Me Hayley

No, according to the Bible we as born-again Christians cannot lose their salvation and those who are born again are given eternal life and that God's plan cannot change, His promises cannot fail & that the calling of God cannot be revoked. Those who are truly saved will remain saved until the end.

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Just Me Hayley

However, some say that people can backslide (fall away) from their faith during times of testing. These tests can include struggles with family, lifestyle choices, or other hardships. To ensure salvation, people should nurture their faith through prayer, Bible study, and active participation in church.

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Just Me Hayley

The term backslide appears in the Old Testament, referring most often to the people of Israel. They fit into the “backslider” category because they were God’s people first. None of the other pagan nations were ever called backsliders.

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Just Me Hayley

One of the confusing things when talking about backsliding is we confuse those who backslide with those who were never saved. To be a backslider, you must first have a true relationship with Jesus Christ—this means you have had a true salvation experience. Many people show outward signs of salvation. Maybe they start going to church or even serving in ministry, but they have never experienced salvation or entered a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Lydia's avatar
Lydia

I'm unsure about this. I'm a lodger with a family who strongly believes that you can't and I see where they're coming from. Jesus does say he won't lose any of those given to him. And for those who say you lose salvation when you lose faith, even John the Baptist lost faith but I think we can agree he didn't lose his salvation. So there seems to be a good argument for it. Plus, salvation isn't gained by works, so how can it be lost by works?

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Max's avatar
Max

Yes you can, unfortunately. So we fall we should strive to be like st Peter and not like Judas Iscariot 💪♥️✝️

Tue Jan 14 2025
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Max

When*

Tue Jan 14 2025
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